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title: "#193: Strategic HR Evolution: Building Culture-Driven IT Organizations"
description: Will Smith shares how Seattle is transforming traditional HR into strategic business partnerships through organizational psychology, innovative frameworks, and intentional culture-building.
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# #193: Strategic HR Evolution: Building Culture-Driven IT Organizations

![Picture of Joe Toste](https://app.hubspot.com/settings/avatar/d79e02d2f67ca9987e895bb88cf1c034)    Joe Toste  ·   2 minute read

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- **[Will Smith](https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-smith-mj-lel-8a22308/)**, Chief of Staff at City of Seattle IT

### **What You’ll Learn:**

- How Seattle IT revolutionized HR by embedding dedicated business partners within each department, transforming traditional personnel management into strategic partnerships that understand both technical operations and business goals
- The critical intersection of organizational psychology and tech leadership, through Will’s doctoral research on how growth mindset principles drive successful cultural transformation in IT organizations
- Seattle IT's innovative "from-to state" framework for cultural change, creating systematic pathways from fixed to growth mindset and empowering teams with clear decision-making abilities
- The power of intentional culture-building in IT organizations, demonstrated through Seattle IT's focus on psychological safety and creating spaces where all perspectives are valued
- How modern HR leadership drives organizational success by understanding both human capital and technical operations, illustrated through Seattle IT's transformation from a traditional personnel office to a strategic business partner

 

### **Timestamps:**

- ([01:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=60s)) Will Smith: From HR Expert to Chief of Staff at Seattle IT
- ([03:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=180s)) Personal Background and Family Values
- ([04:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=240s)) Educational Journey: Bridging IT, Law, and Organizational Psychology
- ([07:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=420s)) Understanding the 'Why' in Organizations
- ([09:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=540s)) Growth Mindset: Foundation for Organizational Change
- ([11:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=660s)) Revolutionizing HR: The Business Partner Model
- ([14:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=840s)) Creating Intentional Culture and Psychological Safety
- ([17:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=1020s)) Managing Conflict Through Relationship Building
- ([19:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=1140s)) Leading Change: Hybrid Work Transformation
- ([21:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=1260s)) Seattle IT Learning Conference: Culture in Action
- ([23:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2bSCg474DE&t=1380s)) Closing Thoughts and Show Information

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